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		<title>Comment on Virtual worlds and the bureaucratic class by Stand up against your IT department!</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/virtual-worlds-and-the-bureaucratic-class/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stand up against your IT department!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] like IBM that already has 20,000 employees in virtual worlds like Second Life. As my friend Peter Quirk put it,&#160;Second Life is just the canary in the coalmine. If your enterprise can&#8217;t manage [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like IBM that already has 20,000 employees in virtual worlds like Second Life. As my friend Peter Quirk put it,&nbsp;Second Life is just the canary in the coalmine. If your enterprise can&rsquo;t manage [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Sketchup plug-ins the right way for Vista by Erik</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/building-sketchup-plug-ins-the-right-way-for-vista/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the solution to the XP problem after diggin around in the actual exporting script for a bit. JeanRichard, I have no idea why the script would work in SketchUp 6, because based on what I found, it shouldn&#039;t.

Anyway, the problem is specific to XP users or before and is a path issue in ogre_export_1_2_1_for_rex.rb.

Go to line 510 in ogre_export_1_2_1_for_rex.rb:
	targetfolderpath = ENV[&#039;USERPROFILE&#039;] + &quot;\\Documents\\&quot; + targetfolder

The &quot;Documents&quot; folder in Windows Vista is called &quot;My Documents&quot; in Windows XP. Change &quot;Documents&quot; to &quot;My Documents&quot; and you&#039;re half way there.

The same issue occurs at line 529:
	load ENV[&#039;USERPROFILE&#039;]+&quot;\\Documents\\Sketchup Plugins\\ogre_export_config.rb&quot;

Again change &quot;Documents&quot; to &quot;My Documents&quot; and you&#039;re set. Restart SketchUp (this is important as SketchUp loads the script when it starts) and you should be good to go. 

If it&#039;s still not working at this point then I don&#039;t know what the problem is. Check ogre_export_config.rb and make sure you have all the paths and settings correct.

Hopefully this will help a lot of people out and Peter, hopefully you can either revise the files or edit the post to inform people about what they need to change, because right now the script is pretty much broken out of the box for ALL XP users.

Thanks for the script. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the solution to the XP problem after diggin around in the actual exporting script for a bit. JeanRichard, I have no idea why the script would work in SketchUp 6, because based on what I found, it shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Anyway, the problem is specific to XP users or before and is a path issue in ogre_export_1_2_1_for_rex.rb.</p>
<p>Go to line 510 in ogre_export_1_2_1_for_rex.rb:<br />
	targetfolderpath = ENV['USERPROFILE'] + &#8220;\\Documents\\&#8221; + targetfolder</p>
<p>The &#8220;Documents&#8221; folder in Windows Vista is called &#8220;My Documents&#8221; in Windows XP. Change &#8220;Documents&#8221; to &#8220;My Documents&#8221; and you&#8217;re half way there.</p>
<p>The same issue occurs at line 529:<br />
	load ENV['USERPROFILE']+&#8221;\\Documents\\Sketchup Plugins\\ogre_export_config.rb&#8221;</p>
<p>Again change &#8220;Documents&#8221; to &#8220;My Documents&#8221; and you&#8217;re set. Restart SketchUp (this is important as SketchUp loads the script when it starts) and you should be good to go. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s still not working at this point then I don&#8217;t know what the problem is. Check ogre_export_config.rb and make sure you have all the paths and settings correct.</p>
<p>Hopefully this will help a lot of people out and Peter, hopefully you can either revise the files or edit the post to inform people about what they need to change, because right now the script is pretty much broken out of the box for ALL XP users.</p>
<p>Thanks for the script. :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Sketchup plug-ins the right way for Vista by Erik</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/building-sketchup-plug-ins-the-right-way-for-vista/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am having the same problem as JeanRicard Broek.

I&#039;m on XP SP2 and also using 7.0.10247.0, the latest version available.

I&#039;ve changed things in the config file, made sure all the required folders exist, etc.

Nothing seems to work. When I click on the menu item, nothing happens. There are no errors,  no logs, certainly no exported meshes, nothing.

Kojack&#039;s original script (the other one listed on the Ogre wiki) is working.

I also tried the latest version of SketchUp 7 Pro, but that didn&#039;t work either.

I could just use Kojack&#039;s script but this appears to be a new and improved version of that, so I would like to use your script if possible. I don&#039;t really want to have to downgrade to SketchUp 6, either.

If you could investigate and possibly find a solution that would be great!

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having the same problem as JeanRicard Broek.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on XP SP2 and also using 7.0.10247.0, the latest version available.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve changed things in the config file, made sure all the required folders exist, etc.</p>
<p>Nothing seems to work. When I click on the menu item, nothing happens. There are no errors,  no logs, certainly no exported meshes, nothing.</p>
<p>Kojack&#8217;s original script (the other one listed on the Ogre wiki) is working.</p>
<p>I also tried the latest version of SketchUp 7 Pro, but that didn&#8217;t work either.</p>
<p>I could just use Kojack&#8217;s script but this appears to be a new and improved version of that, so I would like to use your script if possible. I don&#8217;t really want to have to downgrade to SketchUp 6, either.</p>
<p>If you could investigate and possibly find a solution that would be great!</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reasons to use Opensim/realXtend for team meetings inside the enterprise by GfxGuru</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GfxGuru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d have to totally disagree with B. Koenig on this one. I&#039;d bet I could count at least 25 reasons why I&#039;d choose OpenSim over Secondlife, and the number one? Uhh control. There&#039;s also maintain, modify, host and the fact that you own it, not Linden labs. I&#039;ve been able to get a local standalone modrex build running along with external grids, connected regions to OSGrid and ScienceSIM but this external region of modrex still eludes me.
I can&#039;t tell you how many nights I&#039;ve been lost in amazement with what&#039;s possible with this OGRE-mesh rendering, oh yea there&#039;s another one SL does not do. I can&#039;t wait to see it stabilize a bit.  

  Peter, do you think we may be able to talk you into a quick tutorial on configuring an &quot;external&quot; or publicly visible, modrex/rexserver standalone or standalone grid? I have yet to truly find a good one, so many variants especially in the last .31 to .5 releases. I&#039;m getting a little confused in exactly what&#039;s needed to authenticate an avatar with the addition or cable beach, worldserver, openID, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to totally disagree with B. Koenig on this one. I&#8217;d bet I could count at least 25 reasons why I&#8217;d choose OpenSim over Secondlife, and the number one? Uhh control. There&#8217;s also maintain, modify, host and the fact that you own it, not Linden labs. I&#8217;ve been able to get a local standalone modrex build running along with external grids, connected regions to OSGrid and ScienceSIM but this external region of modrex still eludes me.<br />
I can&#8217;t tell you how many nights I&#8217;ve been lost in amazement with what&#8217;s possible with this OGRE-mesh rendering, oh yea there&#8217;s another one SL does not do. I can&#8217;t wait to see it stabilize a bit.  </p>
<p>  Peter, do you think we may be able to talk you into a quick tutorial on configuring an &#8220;external&#8221; or publicly visible, modrex/rexserver standalone or standalone grid? I have yet to truly find a good one, so many variants especially in the last .31 to .5 releases. I&#8217;m getting a little confused in exactly what&#8217;s needed to authenticate an avatar with the addition or cable beach, worldserver, openID, etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by KeelyC</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/about/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KeelyC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter,

I am co-directing a short film regarding virtual work/telecommute options and their increasing prevalence in the workplace. I&#039;d also like your email address, if possible!

Thanks,

Keely]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I am co-directing a short film regarding virtual work/telecommute options and their increasing prevalence in the workplace. I&#8217;d also like your email address, if possible!</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Keely</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tutorial: Using the streamlined tool chain for importing Sketchup models into realXtend 0.4 by tony</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/tutorial-using-the-streamlined-tool-chain-for-importing-sketchup-models-into-realxtend-04/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was going through this tutorial and got stuck when applying the mesh to the cube.
I&#039;m able to upload the mesh. It shows up both in inventory and in the mesh name drop down list for the cube.
However, when I select the mesh name, nothing changes. Your instructions mention I should be able to see it by this point. Also, if I try to drag the mesh over and onto the cube, it shows the circle with line (cannot do this) icon.

Is there something fundamental I&#039;m missing?
I am using opensim 0.6.6 with modrex on a linux box. I am logging in using realxtend viewer 0.41. Any suggestions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going through this tutorial and got stuck when applying the mesh to the cube.<br />
I&#8217;m able to upload the mesh. It shows up both in inventory and in the mesh name drop down list for the cube.<br />
However, when I select the mesh name, nothing changes. Your instructions mention I should be able to see it by this point. Also, if I try to drag the mesh over and onto the cube, it shows the circle with line (cannot do this) icon.</p>
<p>Is there something fundamental I&#8217;m missing?<br />
I am using opensim 0.6.6 with modrex on a linux box. I am logging in using realxtend viewer 0.41. Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tutorial: Using the streamlined tool chain for importing Sketchup models into realXtend 0.4 by joy</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/tutorial-using-the-streamlined-tool-chain-for-importing-sketchup-models-into-realxtend-04/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i finally found the way to import the 3dmesh. What I did wrong is that I use different ruby script. 
Anyway i confront another issue, which is I can import only mesh but I can&#039;t see the material. From the tutorial, it seems that I need to assign the material again. However, I can&#039;t see the material that come from the object at all. any suggestion?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i finally found the way to import the 3dmesh. What I did wrong is that I use different ruby script.<br />
Anyway i confront another issue, which is I can import only mesh but I can&#8217;t see the material. From the tutorial, it seems that I need to assign the material again. However, I can&#8217;t see the material that come from the object at all. any suggestion?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tutorial: Using the streamlined tool chain for importing Sketchup models into realXtend 0.4 by joy</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/tutorial-using-the-streamlined-tool-chain-for-importing-sketchup-models-into-realxtend-04/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Peter,
I cannot export sketchup model as the exporting tools seems doesn&#039;t work. 

When I clicked object and chose &#039;export selection or Orge Mesh&#039;. There is no dialog box at all. 

Could u please figure out which part of my setting is wrong?

My OS is window xp sp3, sketchup7 Pro (evaluation), I did config the ruby file as you recommended. I  think &#039;OgreXmlConverter.exe&#039; and &#039;RexMeshTool.exe&#039; are pointed correctly. However, I hardly firgure out the how to set the --$g_ogre_user_root = ENV[&#039;USERPROFILE&#039;] + &quot;\\Documents\\&quot;

What should I do if the user is Administrator?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,<br />
I cannot export sketchup model as the exporting tools seems doesn&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>When I clicked object and chose &#8216;export selection or Orge Mesh&#8217;. There is no dialog box at all. </p>
<p>Could u please figure out which part of my setting is wrong?</p>
<p>My OS is window xp sp3, sketchup7 Pro (evaluation), I did config the ruby file as you recommended. I  think &#8216;OgreXmlConverter.exe&#8217; and &#8216;RexMeshTool.exe&#8217; are pointed correctly. However, I hardly firgure out the how to set the &#8211;$g_ogre_user_root = ENV['USERPROFILE'] + &#8220;\\Documents\\&#8221;</p>
<p>What should I do if the user is Administrator?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sensor networks and virtual worlds by Pam Broviak</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/sensor-networks-and-virtual-worlds/#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam Broviak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see this ability to pull data feeds and use them to recreate 3D simulations the next step to SCADA systems. My interest lies specifically with water and wastewater treatment &amp; distribution, but it could also be extended in my field to traffic operations. 

The only place I have seen progress towards a true creation of a 3D SCADA system for these types of operations has been in Reaction Grid. And I agree that Pachube has been key to hosting and pushing out this data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this ability to pull data feeds and use them to recreate 3D simulations the next step to SCADA systems. My interest lies specifically with water and wastewater treatment &amp; distribution, but it could also be extended in my field to traffic operations. </p>
<p>The only place I have seen progress towards a true creation of a 3D SCADA system for these types of operations has been in Reaction Grid. And I agree that Pachube has been key to hosting and pushing out this data.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improving the tool chain for bringing Sketchup models into realXtend by Sagar</title>
		<link>http://peterquirk.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/improving-the-tool-chain-for-bringing-sketchup-models-into-realxtend/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sagar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One other way to get SketchUp models to realXtend is through DeledLite Engine.

Lately, I think I&#039;ve been popularising this Deled engine but actually don&#039;t work for that company nor is that my product. :-)

But, it has been the most reliable stuff available out there.

Download Deled Engine (http://www.delgine.com/index.php). 

Install the plugins (http://www.delgine.com/plugins/viewPluginCategories.php), OBJ and 3DS importers and OGRE and Multiverse exporters.

SketchUp --&gt; OBJ or 3DS --&gt; DeledLite --&gt; Export.

This pipeline was perfect with even large models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other way to get SketchUp models to realXtend is through DeledLite Engine.</p>
<p>Lately, I think I&#8217;ve been popularising this Deled engine but actually don&#8217;t work for that company nor is that my product. :-)</p>
<p>But, it has been the most reliable stuff available out there.</p>
<p>Download Deled Engine (<a href="http://www.delgine.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.delgine.com/index.php</a>). </p>
<p>Install the plugins (<a href="http://www.delgine.com/plugins/viewPluginCategories.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.delgine.com/plugins/viewPluginCategories.php</a>), OBJ and 3DS importers and OGRE and Multiverse exporters.</p>
<p>SketchUp &#8211;&gt; OBJ or 3DS &#8211;&gt; DeledLite &#8211;&gt; Export.</p>
<p>This pipeline was perfect with even large models.</p>
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